Fal Diopter Rear Sight Assembly?

[762-4-U]

I was surfing gunbroker and came across an ad for this sight. Which countries used this type of sight? Any info would be appreciated.

H

[NZ L1A1 Collector]

It's the rear sight for the 7mm Venezuelan FAL rifles (circa 1954) and is calibrated for the 7mm round. A rare sight and generally sold by the same seller on eBay.

It was from this design of sight the Canadian's developed their dial sight

[Sean]

Hmmm…

Calibrated for 7mm. How much of an impact would this have on a 7,62mm gun? POI vs. POI for the 2 different calibers? I have one and I’d like to attempt to finish my build of a replica of the Venezuelan FAL in the future.

Respectfully,

Sean

[NZ L1A1 Collector]

I'm not sure what the balistic differences are between the 7mm and 7.62 rounds, I'm sure there has to be some online reference that could tell you. But if you want to build a replica 7 mm FAL then performance might have to that second place to the correct 'look'.

It might just mean you will have to use the 400 yard setting instead of 200?, I'm not sure.

Will like to see your rifle once you have created it.

[Sean]

Well,

This has got me thinking and that can be dangerous. I need the handguard and more info for the barrel. What 7mm cartridge was the Venezuelan chambered for? 7mm-08, 7mm mauser(too big), 7x??. From what I can gather, it was the 7x57 mauser but this would be too long for a FAL mag correct?

I tried looking up info on the net and my reloading manual to see what would be a close match and I may just stick with the 7,62x51 for ease and cost effectiveness rather than having a new barrel made. This project will be a few months in the making due to cost and the fact that I have about 15 (FAL) rifle projects in front of it.

Sean

[shootist87122]

Stevens lists it as the 7x49.15mm Optimum 2, also known as the 7mm Liviano. Good luck finding any, they later converted all rifles to the 7.62x51.

[SLR-5000]

What is the going price on these sights?
Pat

[762-4-U]

It was selling for 125.00

H

[EX1]

Hello I have seen a very early Flemish language wall chart showing a M 1 type Belgian gun with the same diopter sight. The chart shows a rifle with type A butt wood grip and wood handguards and plain luged barrel and diopter sight.

[Falcon]

I have this wall chart and the rear sight. The gas block looks similar to the Argentine variation.I'll post more later...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/Dsc04004.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/Dsc04007.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/Dsc04006.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/Dsc04005.jpg

[762-4-U]

Cool chart. I love that kind of stuff. I have a C1A1 clone and I love that rear sight. hence, the curiosity about the metric variation.


:bow:

[EX1]

Falcon That is the same chart my buddy has.Is that not Flemish Geweer Kal 7.62?

[Falcon]

Ex1,
Yes it has "FUSIL LICHT AUTOMATISCH GEWEER F.N. KAL. 7,62 mm." listed on the very bottom. I bought it from a guy overseas that said it was hanging in a demolished barracks, it's in poor condition.

I think this rear sight I have is the same, but have not confirmed it. I am working on a clone of this rifle, among other things. I have a new Argentine lugged barrel with an open ear gas block, FN lower and wood stock,pg and HG set so far.

Here are a few more pics...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/FNreardioback.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/Fndiofrontvw.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/FNdiosight.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/FNdiofrontsight.jpg

[NZ L1A1 Collector]

Falcon, you have some very poor taste

look at that revolting AUSCAM in the photo's............ I'm ashamed of you :uhoh:

Hand all your FAL gear back, you don't deserve to own it :rofl:

[Falcon]

:biggrin:I figured if I used it as a background enough it'd elicit a response!!:wink:

[J. Armstrong]

Was looking to do a Venezuelan replica myself - difficulty finding that sight, much less at a reasonable price, is leading me towards a straight Belgian M1 instead. Looking forward to seeing your finished rifle , Falcon !!

[Falcon]

Yeah J., I'm looking forward to starting it as I'm sure it'll be easier than the one I'm stuck on at the moment...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/Ex1proj.jpg


I need the missing link,which is the early gas tube bushing assembly.I don't want to have to modify this long gas tube.Looks like I'll have to fab one.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v38/Falcon007/Dsc04034.jpg

[Brian in MN]

Very cool lower, Falcon, with no semi stop pin. A very handsome Cdn. Ex1.