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September 22, 2004, 22:14
I have an STG, and I want to mount an ACOG on it. I have a few questions:
1. Which ACOG do you recommend? I'm leaning towards the TA11E.
2. What mount would be the best for this? DSA, ARMS, what?
3. I...am a little confused on this point. I need to replace the dustcover with a scope mount. Then I have the ACOG itself and associated hardware. Does one just mount on the other, or do I need another intermediary mount? Over at THR they speak highly of the Larue ACOG mount. Does this replace Trijicon's flat-top adaptor, or is it a necessary 3rd item?
4. Iron sights. Will the FAL iron sights still work as backups like an AR's will, or are they too low?
Anything else I need to know or think about?
September 23, 2004, 22:07
1) I have several TA01B ACOG's on FALs and I find them perfect for the FAL.
2) Either mount are fine with the ARMS being more streamlined. I have never had any problems with movement with my ARMS.
3) You will need the TA51 adaptor to fit any ACOG to a rail.
4) The ACOG will block the rear sight but with the tunnel in the base of the ACOG I just use it as a ghost ring and sight in the front sight for close range shooting. Works for me.
Did I say I love ACOGs? :)
September 23, 2004, 22:56
DSA has a mount made specifically for the ACOG
September 24, 2004, 01:36
DSA/GRSC mount. TA11c.
I love mine!!!
As stated above, use the ACOG tunnel for a ghost ring.
Sword of Laban
September 24, 2004, 16:25
I have been looking for the best optic for my FAL. I do practice regularly with irons but lets face it I donít have anywhere close to the time to master my irons to outshoot a competent marksman using good glass over 200 yards or out speed at close range someone with a good dot sight. I can virtually always hit a silhouette at 300 yards and make fairly rapid head and CoM shots at close range but I need to do better. I take too long and find myself at best in the middle of the pack during competition. I know the only real competition is the two-way range but having the skills will give you an edge.
Naturally the Acog for comes up. Battery independent and excellent durability good for day and night medium to medium long range shots. I have had good luck with 3X fixed power scopes at medium range 300 Ė 400 yard shots. The main problem was the close up shots but if the Acog can be adapted to work as a ghost ring, even if it occludes a lot of periphery vision it may just fit the bill.
I was leaning towards the Leupold Mark 4 CQ/T as well. It gives you the 1X red dot capability for CQB but allows you to magnify up to 3X for good mid - longer range shots. Its about $300 cheaper than the low range Acogís and has accessory rails one every surface. It has medium eye relief 2 Ė 3 inches and is night vision compatible. Really designed for the .223 platform but thatís only to be expected. Itís an illuminated sight but I hear it burns through batteries at a rapid pace. The other Leupold I have debated is the VX-II 1-4 with 4Ē eye relief this would be a no brainier at around $250 if it were illuminated for low light shots. ( http://www.leupold.com/products/Scopes.asp )
ATN has an interesting middle of the road scope the ATN 2-6X40LU, it has an illuminated range finder reticle and goes from wide view 2X to pinpoint 6X. It is in the same price range as the Leupold VX-II 1-4 and comes with a limited lifetime warranty if it was only a 1.5 X to 6X but this was my overall favorite as it seems to support most of the features I was looking for including a drop in bullet drop compensator. Just impossible to get any reviews on the unit in real life operation.
Dot sights come in all flavors with Eotech topping my list followed close behind by Aimpoint and some interest Trijicon TriPower ( http://www.trijicon-inc.com/user/parts/parts_new.cfm?categoryID=11 ) as well as some other offerings from Hakko and ATN. No magnification but darned fast up close and accurate enough for middle range shots but will not take advantage of my rifles range capabilities.
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