View Full Version : .308 which do you prefer?
March 31, 2004, 18:14
Ok, so what do you like? Port,SA,Aussie...maybe indian :eek: and why?
March 31, 2004, 19:46
So far, I have shot Port and Aussie in my AR10 and it shoots both equally well. Velocity is within 20 fps for both, Aussie being a tad faster, but also the bullet is 3 grains lighter.
March 31, 2004, 20:21
i've shot radwaygreen,santa barbra and greek hxp and i've had the best results with the santa barbra.
March 31, 2004, 20:32
I like both Portuguese and South African surplus. The Aussie seems ok, haven't shot much of it yet. I've had bad experiences with both Greek and Santa Barbara.
March 31, 2004, 21:47
I have shot Hirt, Men, Dag, SA, Port, IVI (Canadian), Aussie and LC. My best groups to date have been with the Port, SA and LC/IVI. I really like the Port or SA when the price is right.
By that, I mean if I could get 1k of SA/Port for the same price as 800 Aussie, I would go with SA/Port. Hell, I would go with the same choice if it were 1k for 1k! I do like the strippers and bandos, though!!
March 31, 2004, 23:36
In the following order, not counting my handloads:
4) Anything else
April 01, 2004, 03:59
I've had good results with the Port and South African. I have one box of Australian that I haven't tried yet, but it has a great reputation. I usually try to buy Portugeuse if there's a choice.
Indian is - to be nice - below par. I'd rather shoot WOLF in my guns than Indian ever again! Smoky, dirty, nasty stuff.
Nothing I've shot has FTF though.
April 01, 2004, 08:36
I have had excellent experience with British Radway Green, Portuguese, Santa Barbara, DAG, Hirtenberger and a small amount of Greek. I haven't shot any of my Australian yet.
I buy any of the above when I encounter it at a decent price and have spending money.
April 01, 2004, 11:17
Whatever the cheapest one is that still goes BANG! when I pull the trigger without also blowing up my gun or my head.
April 01, 2004, 13:41
has the right idea!
April 01, 2004, 22:56
I like the Portugese ammo over Aussie and SA. I did get one case of hirtenberger from Sportsman's Guide and it appears to be best and hottest of all. I am looking for more Hirt. I bought lots of Port.
I shoot an AR10A4 and two FALs. They all respond the same to the ammo mentioned above.
April 04, 2004, 09:04
Mine like Aussie then SA. Port just strings all over the place @ 200 yards.
I will have to say it is the 79 batch.
April 05, 2004, 08:44
I picked up a small stash of Lake City and it is great. It shoots Sub MOA in my Imbel that usually shoots 1.5 moa.
April 05, 2004, 09:45
I will only list the ammo that has been commonly available for the last 2 years:
Hirt Excellent, but has been unavailable for a year.
Aussie Next best thing to Hirt, maybe better because it is ~10 years fresher, and bando/stripper packaging ROCKS!
SA Fresher than Port, all copper jacket.
Port Very pretty, some questionable batches with hard primers require double strike to fire, I suspect unknown storage conditions related to these failures to fire
Anything else Some very cool stuff out there in small batches. DAG, MEN, and LC come to mind.
Haven't tried, cautiously interesting Radway Green, Mayasian, Cavim, IMI, Santa Barbara
Would not take for free Indian
April 05, 2004, 14:23
I shot 100 rounds of Indian this weekend. It shot flawlessly. The accuracy is on par with the SA that I had with me. I found one round that had part of the neck folded into the case as the bullet was seated. What the hell, it was pressed flat...I loaded it and shot it too! No problem.
I think people are over-reacting to the cheap Indian ammo. It is OK by me.
April 06, 2004, 01:04
My FAL does really good with SA. Nice tight groups. Malaysian and port are my second choice.
April 06, 2004, 21:51
I noticed with the last battle pack of Port I got that some of the bullet tips were not fully seated in the casing. This of course caused some to stick in the mag and caused feeding problems.
Hebrew Battle Rifle
April 07, 2004, 00:41
Originally posted by Guttertroop
some of the bullet tips were not fully seated in the casing.
Would you mind elaborating upon this please? The bullet tips were not fully seated?
old goofy dude
April 07, 2004, 12:32
I've found a few rounds of Port were the bullets were not crimped. I can actually spin the bullets in the case. In one, I could push the bullet into the case for a small distance. The lot number was 78 something as my memory is not working well this morning.
Needless to say, I check out every round, of any brand ammo, before it goes into a magazine.
April 07, 2004, 21:26
I will try to get you guys a picture of what I am talking about. It seems as though at least 2 out of the box are that way.
The lot is BF 79-56.
Anyone else with the same problem with the Port ammo?
April 07, 2004, 21:28
As a matter of fact I just opened a box and counted 2.
Port , hands down. No trouble ever with it.
April 08, 2004, 21:33
Guttertroop, I have have also found rounds not seated completely, Port. BF 79-56. I have found from 3-5 or so rounds in each box this way in two cases. I also had a case of BF 79-71 that was fine. I guess 79-56 was a bad lot. After I seated the rounds they worked fine. I just hadn't planned on putting that much labor into surplus ammo.
If I buy anymore Port, I will stay with the FNM rather than the BF.
Does anyone know if these are different factories or companies that contract for the Port government??
April 09, 2004, 08:54
This thread got me thinking...
I can now shoot Hirtenberger in my STG-58, Izzy in my Izzy HB, Radway Green in my L1A1, Australian in my SLR, DAG in my G-1, Santa Barbara in my CETME, LC in my M-14, and W-W in my Hesse!
Is there any Brazilian surplus? I need some for my IMBELs! CAVIM is Venezuelan.
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