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March 24, 2004, 16:52
in typical fasion upon passing my ccw course i immediately bot all my continuum of force devices to include a tactical flashlight. being unable to decide upon 1 light i bot 2 (i get all the stuff in the store at cost) first is a surefire C2 didnt have the m2 in stock and i also picked up a g2-also bot the k3 bezel for the c2 and a p61 lamp to replace the 60 in the g2.
now to my question-should i have bot something else? aviators and L4s were in stock but even with my discount they were $100+ i am stongly considering the E2D for summer carry-they just look like they would really hurt.
March 24, 2004, 17:17
Flashlights are not really a force option, they allow you to identify a threat. I have a G2 and the G2Z and prefer the Z as I can use it while clearing a bulding easier. Otherwise the P60 or 61 lamp is fine as a tactical light.,
March 24, 2004, 17:24
right or wrong the instructor placed the light just above words on "his"
continuum. his postion is that in addition to identifying a threat/target you can
use the light 65 lumins or higher to blind/cause pain to the ocular nerves in dark settings giving you time to put distance between you and the threat.
March 24, 2004, 17:29
Them big heavy ones make a nice force option.:devil:
Seriously though find one that works one handed, has a good grip and you can afford. When I say one handed that's just what I mean. No fumbling around, trying to find the button or having to use excessive pressure to activate the light. If the light doesn't work easily when your not under stress or pressure imagine how it'll work when really needed. That would be my recommendation.
March 25, 2004, 00:33
I swear both at and by my SF lights. I swear at because I use them so much, I stream through 123s like mad. However, they are robust, durable and in one case, used as a minor impact weapon in the field.
I have at home the M3. I originally picked it up for duty use but found it a bit big as a backup light. My C2 Centurion is the better model for me. At the suggestion of Gabe Suarez, I removed the cord lanyard and replaced it with a suitable key ring. Absolutely easy to use on building searches and so on.
SF saw the light with the GG&G TID so they have begun to develop bezels with "impact teeth." Nice move in my opinion.
The time I used my light was when a suspect attempted to kick out the window in the back of my car. After dragging him out and trying to reset the cuffs to move them back behind him, he started thrashing about. As he raised up, I icepicked the C2, turned it on and drove it into his bare shoulder blade. The edge ground into his shoulder nicely and the hot light left a nice reminder not to screw around. He stopped his thrashing and quietly complained all the way to jail about me taking the cigarette lighter to his shoulder (nice try - none of our cars have them anymore).
I believe in the lights.
March 27, 2004, 08:58
Mparrish, you do know that SF123 batts are $1.25 ea from Surefire. Botach tactical had Sanyo123s on sale last week for .89 ea. IF ya need anythign SF email me or come my table at WAC/Puyallup.
March 27, 2004, 09:17
Can someone tell me what models are best for mounting on an AR. Weight is a worry for me, so I want to go with a small one. My thought is to mount it on the bottom rail in from of my forward grip, I can never seem to figure out which models would be the best. Thanks
March 27, 2004, 09:31
I have several Surefires...they're the best of the best.
March 27, 2004, 10:47
Yeah, just got another 20 from Botach. If I can, I'll try to stop by on Sunday. Anything distinctive to look for?
March 27, 2004, 14:48
Mparrish- the show at Puyallup is next weekend, the show at Monroe is this weekend. Just to be clear I'll be at Puyallup, not Monroe. I'm willing to bet that I'm the only guy in a cowboy hat wearing a Surefire tshirt selling Surefire lights. I'm generally set up next to "Bearwhositsthere", if ya dont see me just ask Eric, he'll know where I am.
edblevi- any of the weaver mounted (660) or front sight mounted ( 674) "classic" AR15 lights would fill yer need. Or you can go the other route and "build" a weaponslight from a handheld light, a shock isolated bezel, a 1" weaver scope ring, and a $16 after market pressure switch, ( the SF factory switches are $45+). I no longer have any classic series lights in stock but I see them used for $100-$150 at shows and online. IF ya have any SF related questions feel free to email. I dont know it all, but I do know Surefire's customer service email :)
March 28, 2004, 06:25
Whatever you do,, stick with a known manufacturer for the batteries. I bought some made by Universal made in china. Long story short they suck.
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